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	<title>Comments on: Symbol Error Rate (SER) for 4-PAM</title>
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		<title>By: Krishna Sankar</title>
		<link>http://www.dsplog.com/2007/10/07/symbol-error-rate-for-pam/#comment-98250</link>
		<dc:creator>Krishna Sankar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 01:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@dsp: Thanks much. Replies:
1) The name E_{16PAM} is a typo, though the value of 5 is the right one. Changed the variable to E_{4PAM}. Thanks for pointing this out.
2) Infact, the post did not try to get to the Bit Error Rate. It computes the symbol error rate (ser) vs symbol to noise ratio (Es/N0) plot. But you are right, Eb/N0 and Es/N0 is different for the 4PAM case...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dsp: Thanks much. Replies:<br />
1) The name E_{16PAM} is a typo, though the value of 5 is the right one. Changed the variable to E_{4PAM}. Thanks for pointing this out.<br />
2) Infact, the post did not try to get to the Bit Error Rate. It computes the symbol error rate (ser) vs symbol to noise ratio (Es/N0) plot. But you are right, Eb/N0 and Es/N0 is different for the 4PAM case&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dsp</title>
		<link>http://www.dsplog.com/2007/10/07/symbol-error-rate-for-pam/#comment-98173</link>
		<dc:creator>dsp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I went through the above bit error rate calculation for 4-PAM derivation. I have two questions:

1) why did you give the name of variable (E16PAM) that is used to calculate the average energy of the 4-PAM constellation?
2) in the above expression, it seems to me you are using energy Eb and Es are equal. But in case of 4-PAM two bits are mapped into 1 symbol, thus the energy of bit and symbol cannot be the same, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I went through the above bit error rate calculation for 4-PAM derivation. I have two questions:</p>
<p>1) why did you give the name of variable (E16PAM) that is used to calculate the average energy of the 4-PAM constellation?<br />
2) in the above expression, it seems to me you are using energy Eb and Es are equal. But in case of 4-PAM two bits are mapped into 1 symbol, thus the energy of bit and symbol cannot be the same, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Krishna Sankar</title>
		<link>http://www.dsplog.com/2007/10/07/symbol-error-rate-for-pam/#comment-24240</link>
		<dc:creator>Krishna Sankar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 09:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@inamullah: Sorry, am not aware. However, did you checkout some of the functions in RF toolbox or Communications toolbox in Matlab?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@inamullah: Sorry, am not aware. However, did you checkout some of the functions in RF toolbox or Communications toolbox in Matlab?</p>
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		<title>By: Krishna Sankar</title>
		<link>http://www.dsplog.com/2007/10/07/symbol-error-rate-for-pam/#comment-24224</link>
		<dc:creator>Krishna Sankar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 08:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Hamad: Sorry, I have not tried that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Hamad: Sorry, I have not tried that.</p>
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		<title>By: Hamad</title>
		<link>http://www.dsplog.com/2007/10/07/symbol-error-rate-for-pam/#comment-23834</link>
		<dc:creator>Hamad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 00:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this hard work, but can you tell me what if instead of pulse amplitude modulation scheme we use a noise variance modulation scheme with variance [1,2,3,4]
Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this hard work, but can you tell me what if instead of pulse amplitude modulation scheme we use a noise variance modulation scheme with variance [1,2,3,4]<br />
Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: inamullah</title>
		<link>http://www.dsplog.com/2007/10/07/symbol-error-rate-for-pam/#comment-23589</link>
		<dc:creator>inamullah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi 
dear i m doing my dessertation bt i need simulation on link budget analysis through matlab i need command for that like RF tools ha rftool same like that i need command for link budget plz help me or send the link on my email thanks 
inamkhan_swati@yahoo.com
regards
Inamullah from united kingdom 00447765001348</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi<br />
dear i m doing my dessertation bt i need simulation on link budget analysis through matlab i need command for that like RF tools ha rftool same like that i need command for link budget plz help me or send the link on my email thanks<br />
<a href="mailto:inamkhan_swati@yahoo.com">inamkhan_swati@yahoo.com</a><br />
regards<br />
Inamullah from united kingdom 00447765001348</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.dsplog.com/2007/10/07/symbol-error-rate-for-pam/#comment-16871</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 18:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh thank you. I forgot the sqrt(No). What a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh thank you. I forgot the sqrt(No). What a mistake.</p>
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